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So here it is, neatly spelled out, and better than I could have ever put it --

Goodbye to All That, Part 2 by Robin Morgan.

This sums up much better than I ever could why so much of the media coverage of Hillary Clinton makes me sick to my stomach, so much so that it's hard for me to separate my protective feelings towards her as a human being from my views of her as a candidate, though I find the more I delve and the more I look at the numbers, the more that falls away.

Date: 2008-02-09 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I'm lucky enough to mostly miss the mainstream media coverage of her (or anything else for that matter). But yes - the fact that we HAVE a strong female candidate does not make institutionalized sexism go away, or anything else. ugly place we live in sometimes.

Date: 2008-02-10 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
What's crazy is I don't even watch TV news. This is all from reading articles.

Date: 2008-02-09 09:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] evilmagnus
Hillary's got a lot of history in Washington, a lot of it negative. I can understand disagreeing with her politics, but the personal hate just baffles me. It's not like she doesn't give her opponents enough meat to go for without that. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that hate stems from a fear/hatred of successful women, especially from certain factions of the GOP.

Also, apparently men prefer (by a 18 point margin) Obama to her. Women are roughly tied between the two. That's an unpleasant statistic for any candidate.

Date: 2008-02-10 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yes, I agree totally. My personal jury is still out on her as my candidate and on the issues. I just hate the way people tear at her, and by extension, women.

Thick ankles. Seriously. Nobody would ever in a zillion years point out a male candidate had thick ankles.

Date: 2008-02-10 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
David's mom forwarded that to me and other members of the family. It made me want to vote for her.

The problem I have is that I think Sen. Clinton's sex and Sen. Obama's race cancel each other out. The fact that we have two people who aren't white males as our choices is amazing and grand and a long time coming, but not an advantage for the other candidate.

I do echo my friend who said that it was a good day when the choices we have are both acceptable and good. We aren't voting against someone we're voting for someone. What a treat!

Date: 2008-02-10 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I increasingly don't want her as my candidate. But then, that doesn't make me want Obama more. I'll take either one. I'd rather take the two together.

Date: 2008-02-11 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I sort of disagree. I think that the fact that Obama is registering so well with white men is that he isn't really as much of a change as we might want. I think the fact that Hillary gets attacked from every side is significant.

Date: 2008-02-11 03:17 pm (UTC)


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